Bill Gates makes standards… for sucking!

Is that why you use Windows?

Indeed firefox doesn’t have features of IE.
But did you try to add extensions to it?
I was able to make it look and function like Opera.
Also there is one extension that opens pages in firefox with
IE engine.
Firefox is the most customizable browser I ever saw.
and all extensions are free and updated regularly.
That’s why is the best.

I Just dont know.. when I used FireFox I feel Comfortable.. when Im using IE I am really annoyed… I Just dont know why?…

Firefox rules Chaka….IE is the Devil and renders shit sloppy. The only reason you like it is because you can be lazy in your web coding!!!

Wow that is got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard.

You’re a dumbass, straight up.

just USE firefox and you’ll notice why it kicks the shit out of IE.
IE is so useless, and couldn’t render HTML if it’s life depended on it.

Amatureville.

Don’t blame IE because your life sucks.

You don’t actually want a discussion do you? Nevertheless:

IE has the worst rendering engine available today. My cellphone is more standards-compliant. Seriously.

Why does this matter? Standards are vital to the web – designers need to know that if they stick to defined standards, declaring them on the page, their users will have an all-but-identical experience, no matter what browser they use.

IE takes that idea, bends it over and does unspeakable things to it.

How can you possibly argue that this is a good thing?

What I don’t want is lies and falsehoods.
Firefox is a lie and a falsehood.

You claim that IE renders html incorrectly, ha!

The truth is that Firefox has blinded your eyes and you can’t judge accurately how html should really be rendered.

Finally, IE is a standard in itself.. Firefox is not.

Your hate toward IE only feeds me.

Die hippies die!. Kick that Fox dude

Have anyone here test Opera, its simply the best internet experience!

LOL @ this site.

Opera FTW~!!!

Anyone know of a program that i can use to keep firefox off a computer? im a student tech from a school district and im looking into something that won’t get past the proxys that the school has set.

So if you know of any program that does not allow firefox to run please tell me. (we set our server so it won’t allow firefox.exe to run but oviously they can simply rename the .exe and run it, and it will be ok to run.)

I was more looking for a program that delete’s a .dll that firefox needs to run. if you know of a program that will delete an .dll when installed or won’t allow it on the computer period. leave a post here and ill read it up in a day or so.

Thanks ahead of time!

Nathan… you are so STUPID.

Don’t take your frustrations out on me. You’re failure as a human being is evident. If you want to make your parents proud and in doing so redeem yourself, you should consider bringing Internet Explorer home to them. They will embrace you as their prodigal son. Where you were dirty in the ways of this world through the whoring of yourself out to FireFox, you can now find in Internet Explorer the redemption you have been searching for all your life. Today, if you hear the voice of Internet Explorer calling out to you don’t harden your heart.

hi nathan i love ur work and i’m from india….keep rockin dude…we love u in india!

dude did u attend college?

I attended college. Maybe if you had attended you would have left your ignorant ways behind you and embraced Internet Explorer.

what love IE dude…especially IE 7…what gave u the impression that i didn like IE….i am a huge microsoft fan….!

Just testing where your loyalties lie.

heha….man….nice trick…u know it’s so lame for ppl thrashing microsoft just for the sake of it….i hate that!

firefox does suck when it comes to styling with css. You can’t color scrollbars! You can’t add styles to images! It sucks!

Internet Explorer is the single worst software that has been made and become popular. Firefox is multiple times faster and safer. Nathan, I can see why you picked a Nazi picture for your avatar. Also, joe, sharad, and Furey, it’s nice that you chose to flush your life down the drain. Good luck in life and stop sniffing glue.

@randomness:
That’s not a nazi avatar it is a US WWII poster! You need to go back to school and get a degree in IE. You’re such a hippy!

Yeah, IE (originally “Internet Exploder”) rules in the following points:

- largest security holes EVER!!!
- hidden and unnoticable spyware intrusions
- lots of backdoor exploits for malware/spyware/trojans
- damaging RAM
- worst security
- worst handling
- frequent crashes
- great slogan: “Internet Explorer – share your secrets to the world”

Enough said. I’m outta here and by the way … yes IE users are the best and really 1337 *sneer*

Gill Bates Says:
July 5th, 2008 at 8:37 am

Yeah, IE (originally “Internet Exploder”) rules in the following points:

- largest security holes EVER!!! ## Prove it, every single serious business use IE and noone had security problems just cause of IE

- hidden and unnoticable spyware intrusions ## Not with default settings, you fail.

- lots of backdoor exploits for malware/spyware/trojans ## Redundant with first point, fail again, 1 life left.

- damaging RAM ## Stupidest thing anyone ever said on the whole internets

- worst security ## Again redundant with #1, game over you have to start again from level 1 and suck the billionaire dick of the mozilla CEO (Yes the one thats earning millions from a piece of software he didn’t financed, COMMUNITY MAKE THE WORK FOR FREE)

- worst handling ## ?

- frequent crashes ## Maybe on your mom HP Pavillion 300$ crowded with bestiality porn dialers

- great slogan: “Internet Explorer – share your secrets to the world” ## You suck at humor

Enough said. I’m outta here and by the way … yes IE users are the best and really 1337 *sneer*

## No but Mozilla fans are as stupid as the Apple fanboys, they give you crippled shit that was created by stealing every concurrent ideas and tell you to spread it to everyone.

Think different, think suicide, please.

Err… Do You Have Any Proof To Back Up Your Statement Of IE Being Better Than FireFox?

If Not, Then Quit Being A Faggot And Do Something Better With Your Life Then Horribly Troll The Greatest Browser In The Known Universe, Thank You.

Sh4 Says:
July 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Think different, think suicide, please.

^ nailed it. Back up your claims or you will be assumed moronic. IF you can give unbiased answers to back up your claims of firefox’s inferiority and IE’s superiority, then I will consider you to be an intelligent human being with an opinion, else, you’re full of shit.

TO BACK UP MY CLAIMS THAT FIREFOX IS GOOD:
– Addons – features IE is way behind on are available this way.
– Themes – I like my browser looking half decent, this does that
– ACID3 CSS scores – for compliance with this, Firefox 3 is superior to -every- other browser available.
– ACID2 CSS scores – every browser EXCEPT IE scores a perfect 100 on this
– Firefox is faster, I have confirmed this -many- times
– http://crashie.com <– the day that crashes firefox is the day the internet shall die
– Firefox is the most compliant browser with w3c html and xhtml standards out there. Yes w3c, not micro$haft, sets these standards.

regrettably firefox does have numerous negatives as well but since we’re making the focus of this debate a matter of which has more positive points. Don’t give me shit about firefox being shit, give me reasons IE is good. The debate shall continue after you have achieved this.

forgot to add these in there >.> XD
– firefox was THE FIRST browser to support complex .png transparencies
– spellchecker ftw
– tabbed browsing since ’06
– fast loadup time
– it is the most compatible browser with non-windows OS. I use it fairly often on os x because it supports more than safari, and on linux because it is good (and note not the only available browser with it either)

I await your reply and your reasons that IE is a good browser

Let me see if what you say about Firefox is true.
If anybody else wants to check it out as well here are the instructions.

Steps to download Firefox

Step 1. Open up Internet Explorer

… I wasn’t able to finish downloading Firefox cause I realized in the first step that I didn’t need to.

you haven’t been around the nets long have ya?

firefox is one of the very best browsers out there IE is a bloated tick waiting to pop with every release it becomes les and less stable and LESS COMPATABLE WITH MICROSOFT WEBSITES

NOW HOW THE HELL THAT WORK? XDDDDDDDD

firefox however just simply works

now if all your doing is just going to myspace to talk to little kids and try to see em naked sure go play with ie but if you have any real use for the internets get something stable made by mozilla

and you have just forfeited debate. Firefox is not perfect I think we can -all- agree on that, but if you can’t just type in http://getfirefox.com and hit return to download it, then you fail at internets. The key thing about firefox is you dont -need- it but it’s more functional more secure and it IS faster than IE. You don’t -need- it to work but it’s shitloads easier than internet asploder ever will be. M$ set standards, and their newest release of excell didn’t even meet them…kinda says something no?

and I feel I must rebut this:

sh4: – hidden and unnoticable spyware intrusions ## Not with default settings, you fail.

no sir it is you who phails, for with the default settings I used IE once, quite religiously, and then I ran this thing called spybot, which I had run after installing from a disk before ever connecting. It found a few DLL files and IE backdoors. I scanned after about 6 months on the internet with Kaspersky antivirus running. I found well over 600 more results with mention of IE in there, all unique, and another 400+ that did not mention IE. I deleted them all.

THEN…then I discovered the TRUE messiah – FOSS. I swiftly download firefox and used it to download gaim. I was enthralled by this new idea of using tabs, and the absurdly fast page loading, and that I didn’t see a red x or white border anywhere that shouldn’t have one! Another 6 months passed…I ran spybot again…I saw……I SAW…the IE and windows security holes only…that is all…I had gone free and open source with firefox and gaim and I was clean and secure. I went to bed that night…happy…

XDD and I had -not- changed the settings of IE ONCE in that year XDDDD

I love it when people find backdoors with malware like SpyBot.

Sabre, you do a disservice to yourself and the whole Firefox community. If I were a Firefox user I would not want to associate myself with you.

internets. serious business. If you can’t take it then I have a few tools available to aid you in your quest to be an hero.

You still have not given me a reason for Internet Explorer being good.

and if I may just add, were you a firefox user I am quite sure there are many, such as myself who would not wish to associate themselves with you either, based on your responses to perfectly valid points using firefox bashing/micro$hit praise rather than with valid reasoning.

I recommend self-decapitation. Good day to you sir, and good luck with your suicide XDD

@Sabre:

You’re such a drama queen.

@Everyone:

I wish people would just grow up and be a man and use Internet Explorer. If Internet Explorer fails for you, maybe it isn’t Internet Explorer that is the failure, maybe it is you.

try to use lynx, if you don’t care about visuals …. this tool is smaller and faster than FF

*bows* thank you, thank you so much =D XDD

next time at least try to hold a real debate rather than resort to phail’D insults XD

you, idiot… go, fuck yourself

no need to …. use IE – debate finished.

what the hell, everyone i know regardless of system has now a crashing firefox. Mine crashes every 1-3 minutes, just closes or crashes and closes. It’s happening to everyone. How could they wreck what was a superb browser. It all went tits up startying around v 2.something, upgraded and it hasnt been stabel sicne, tried everything, uninstall, go back versions, crash crash crash crash.. fucking useless and worst of all mozilla cant admit it and sort this hopeless clusterfuck out!

i dont want to use bloody IE! i HATE ie… thats what cheesing me off btw

quote “Firefox is the browser of bitches that complain about their internet experience and slow download speeds on AOL…”

I use Firefox because whenever I open IE, it says there is a fatal error and must be shut down… it’s nothing to do with download speeds. Firefox works, IE doesn’t.

Setting the Firefox fanboys aside (while at the same time not condoning Nathan’s one-sided rampage)… and let’s hold an actual comparison. You know Fx will always be the Internet’s cute little underdog, its independent musician, its low-budget film darling (That’s enough syns., Ed.) So I guess we can expect the repugnant variety of cockatoos.

Let’s list my personal experience (and many others, though it doesn’t seem like it. Keep on reading.) I get the freakiest of glitches in Fx. Input URL or search term and press enter.. and at times, Firefox “lies” that the page is done, when NOTHING has been loaded. I’ve heard of cases when Fx couldn’t save people from the real threats (trojans, viruses, turbulent forms of malware), which is why you really need an anti-something software. Download speeds has nothing to do with the browser on the bottom line. Many factors in web browsing doesn’t matter much between browsers. Am I saying IE is “secure”? Or any other browser? Just owning the browser isn’t enough if you’re actually concerned on the state of your precious Facebook-style photos. And yes, most current browsers would have a similar, if not better browsing experience than a stripped-down, extensions-free Fx. No surprise there.

I think that the ones who have a troubling experience with Fx need to F*CKING SPEAK OUT. Do NOT be oppressed by the Fx fanboys. Do not let them harass you, or blame anything else BUT your browser. No matter how small your problem is with Fx, SPEAK OUT. Priests and high seers of Firefoxism/Firefoxnity tend to spurt out ignorant expressions that goes along the lines of “STFU ITS LOW MEMORY YOU B*TCHEAD” or “SABOTAGER!!!”. In most cases, having low memory is a result of resource-hogging from Fx… especially when you buy into their little addons/extensions downloading spree. Remember, individuals contribute separately to the Firefox programming, and with thousands more creating those addons… you can expect some puzzle pieces not fitting with the others. (Ironically, the generic symbol for addons is a puzzle piece… and they’re all identical.)

True supporters of Fx should have a sense of benevolence when assisting frustrated users of the browser. With such a wide spectrum of glitches in this browser, those of us who still have faith in it should work together to change the code altogether. Some Fx security vulnerabilities still remain since its Deer Park days (a symptom of open-source individuality), and it says something when Fx isn’t completely friendly with various media embedding plugins… from suggesting “manual installs” for Shockwave and WMP, or (once they’re installed) either half-loads the embedded page, or loads everything… but refuses to play the content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is where “IE Tab” comes in. It’s an extension, and it’s INTERNET EXPLORER. Hmm.

http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html
Some details not completely true, but there’s some insightful points in that site. It just shows that behind every Firefox (or every Barack Obama)… there lay the same old practices.

One last thing. Fx did modernize the aspect of a web browser. But now the competition has caught up. And the fanboys are more obvious to spot. You got a problem with Fx? Speak out. It’s better to tarnish its image of a “perfect, fast, and secure” browser than sweep it all under the carpet and curl yourself in a ball under all the aforementioned oppression. Like any OTHER browser out there, it really isn’t what it advertises. Get a good anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-etcetra software, and you’re really set for safe browsing, downloading, the works. Good day.

Oh, and here’s a little surprise. Am I for Firefox? Hell yes. But a big, fat, constructively CRITICAL yes. For IE? Well, it is on-par on some levels, and actually exceeds Fx on others. Yes. Safari? Opera? Yay, and oui. Just forget about the browser wars, or make a big dickery out of it. Just accept that Fx, IE, Safari, and Opera are the Toshiba, Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic of browsers (in particular order). And maybe get on with life for once.

For all of you who still don’t get it: The following link explains everything and makes sure even Internet Explorer users should get the point.

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BON5nd8Fg

Enough said … and to all “Internet Explorer is the best” users: How about a nice big cup of shut the f*** up? Really, please, think before you say something stupid.

@Charles:
Internet Explorer knows where you live.

Internet Explorer knows where Charles lives? I’m afraid not, Nathan … but Microsoft knows everything about YOU and all other Windoze users, no matter which browser they use.

I don’t want to say that IE is crap or firefox rules or childish stuff like that and I don’t want to continue the dull “IE vs. Firefox” battle — I just think that Micr$oft abuses its own authority in some cases.

Greets

David

You can try to cover up the truth all you want but the facts remain. IE is superior to FF in every way, shape, and form.

nathan i agree with you. IE is superior to FF => in crashing, backdoors and hijacking.

“Using Internet Explorer? There’s a good chance you’re not reading this. A single line of code embedded in this page crashes most versions of IE.” => http://www.crashie.com/

and nathan, do you have a girlfriend (a human female being) or any hobbies or why do you have so much spare time to argue with people which browser is the best although everyone (even 90 years old my grandma) knows that IE is no browser the but worst piece of crap.

ps: don’t waste your “precious time” to make an effort answering my post, i won’t come back to read it … better download the billion critical patches for your browser, you’ll need them.

@Alderon:
That squirrelly little fox like devil named Satan has gotten to you. I will pray for you and your grandma.

People like you that come here to my website know they need help. Why else do people search “antifirefox” on google? I’ll tell you why, because deep down on the inside they know it sucks.

They know that Firefox is a horribly devilish work yet they can’t pull themselves away because they are addicted. Don’t get caught up in the Firefox lie, cleanse yourself of your Firefox sins today. Come back to the truth. IE will accept you back with open arms; like a prodigal son gone wrong in a weary world.

hello there!

i’ve read your last answer saying there must be a reason why people search for “firefox sucks” — to be honest i found your page because i was searching for “firefox sucks” to find such a page like this. i love reading all the posts how people argue which browser is better to laugh my ass off about (poor) microsoft addict guys like you.

after reading your last post, i would say, you have a pact with satan himself … microsoft. i don’t care if IE would accept me with open arms (or open security holes or whatever). IE is just a stone-age browser, full of security holes and some cheesy elements microsoft calls “design”.

i have to thank you. thanks to people like you (i guess about 80% of the ppl on the world use IE) there are still hackers who develop tons of viruses and malware for the IE and don’t altercate how to attack the firefox, safari, opera and so on. i know that every browser can be attacked, but IE is the most vulnerable browser (IE is actually no browser, it’s a vulnreability itself).

the way you argue is also very disputable. some quoutes of your answers:
“Internet Explorer knows where you live.” … wow that’s hard … that’s an argument
“IE is superior to FF in every way, shape, and form.” go ahead and read a serious computer magazine please
“I wish people would just grow up and be a man and use Internet Explorer.” after that i just think you’re a 12 years old boy … a real man does not use IE because a real man is smart, what you said was just childish and daft

enough of this! i am happy that i am using an apple with MacOs so this internet explorer piece of crap does not run on my machine (yes i know there was an IE for MacOs, whoever installed that was a f*cking idiot and microsoft luckily also discontinued the IE for mac project because noone wanted it) … thank god.

think forward, think non-microsoft please

You call yourself a mac user and you don’t even use safari? What kind of crooked person are you? Where’s your sense of loyalty? It sounds like it has gone out the door and all that you have left is your false sense of superiority. You, and people like you, need to know that Firefox is a dark cloud of deception that blinds and warps everybody it touches.

maybe you should read my post a little more intensively. i did not say that i use firefox on my mac *duh* …

read and think before you type please. thanks.

You come here and defend Firefox and expect me to believe you don’t use it? You’re only deceiving yourself!

OMG, someone who hates Firefox!
I love you <3

So you are another bloody Microsoft fanboy, eh? I mean you don’t even have valid arguments for Internet Explorer.

If Internet Explorer and Firefox are the only two browsers you have tried, why not try Opera? Or are you one of those Microsoft fanboys who are scared of admitting that their browser of choice is the most inferior?

I agree that Firefox isn’t the best browser around either (not after trying out Opera!) but I gotta admit that Internet Exploder is for ignorants.

Don’t pay attention to these lying posts. He is only trying to get comments and visits making a fooly controverse :p

@Marce: I don’t need your comment or your visit. Why would I? I am not out looking to make a quick penny. The only thing I advertise here is the superiority of Internet Explorer.

I do love my xp machine, and I hate Vista, Windows 7… still up in the air, so I would say that I am not a Microsoft fanboy. However I would say that Firefox is superior to IE for one BIG reason. The browser was built by the people for the people, and anything you ask will be added or a nice add on will be made for you. All the other claims are true about firefox as well, it is widely know to be better, and IE is well known to be shovelware. I am a computer tech of 15 years and IE is the only program that I have seen, on a fresh install, corrupted. I think that we all have reasons that we use what we use, and they both have really great aspects. Let the war begin…

I wasted 15 minutes scrolling thru the posts and not one single logical argument has been put forward as to why IE is better than FF. You started this page almost 3 years ago, and haven’t come up with one point …… Sad.
Time to embrace change and see the light IMO.(of course)
You have not won me over to IE.

Firefox never seems right, nor does i e 8. I feel very happy with i e 7.

Yeah, Firefox is a pure shit, but IE too.

Heil Opera !

I would rather enter a free whore house with out a condom, than risk surfing the internet with IE. When is the last time that you got an STD (Spyware total domination) with Firefox?

Being a web programmer I have more problems getting IE to conform to standards that Safari and FireFox just do right!

I’m actually neutral about this “which browser is the best” and “browser xyz sucks” thing, but IE does not match the term “browser”. In my opinion IE is not a browser, it’s either a mailicious virus, a malware magnet or a trojan horse. Firefox seems to be okay, but I prefer Opera, which definately is a browser, and a good one.

@Sh4 (above):
You think ‘Gill Bates’ sucks at humor? No, he doesn’t and (even more important) he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Speaking of fanboys, you are a f****** Micro$oft fanboy (just in case you did not realize)! If someone or something sucks, it’s YOU. Oh, and by the way, Micro$oft is the stealing company, not the others (think ob tabbed browsing in IE6) … please if you cannot argue with suggestive arguments, shut the f*** up. THANK YOU.

I have tried all browsers named above and can confidently say that the marginal differences between them do not warrant any sort of serious discussion.

Browser snobs really should find something remotely controversial to talk about.

Bar one thing: thanks to all the non-IE browsers, there’s no worldwide STANDARD. Thanks a lot…

Hmm I fully agree. Even with Xhtml strict Lierfox still gets it wrong.
I used to be a strong supporter but having to dumb down my web sites due to complications with firefox is a pain in the rear.
Have a look at my website on IE – Perfect then load it on lierfox and bam all over the joint in pages. Having manually download ands install add ons. No streaming unless your genius with coding and specificaly set coding aside for lierfox to undrstand how to you the stream and not download it first OMG. I can do some complicated coding for IE 6/7/8 and get it right then go to lierfox and all screwed up and have completely rewrite the code to make exclusions and tothe point on a website to get it to run good on both OI had to split the main to ask what browser type the user was running to make them click to the right format for thier browser as the auto find fewature once again keeps loading IE code into lierfox. Probably my coding. Anyway enuf of my rant. IE is the future.

As time passes Internet Explorer becomes better and better than Firefox.

The version 7 is shitty, but the version 8 is wonderful.

Firefox becomes shittier and shittier.
The version 3 uses 40MB of RAM and is slow and buggy.

In fact, I find Microsoft’s products better and better, including Windows, if you look at Windows 7 (which’ll be selled soon)

See ya.
Mat’ of France.

Nathan, can you give me 10 reasons founded on factual knowledge that prove IE is better than all other browsers (I don’t particularly care for firefox myself, but I care much less for Internet Explorer)

@Chris: Even if I gave you what you ask for you would still not believe for an evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign.

Nathan Says:
April 15th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

@Chris: Even if I gave you what you ask for you would still not believe for an evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign.

Um… Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? You keep saying Firefox is evil and stuff but how and why?
Summarizing all your posts, you are Anti-Firefox because Firefox is “Evil”, yet you F A I L E D to provide even 1 single logical reason to back this up. I mean who would have thought that after 3 years, Nathan still couldn’t figure out a single reason why Firefox is evil?!?! I mean, oh my god! Why do you keep denying reality? Or are you just too dumb to even think of 1 single reason why Firefox is “Evil”?

Anyway, Firefox and Internet Explorer are just browsers for fuck’s sake, there’s no need to take it to a religion level. Okay? Using Firefox doesn’t / won’t bring Satan to you, I mean how do you even know that Satan exists? Because that’s what your cult leader told you? Seriously, you need to check this out… Even though I’d really love to help you, I doubt someone in a cult (you, Natha, yes I’m talking about you, stop denying reality) would actually realize that and could get them self out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

And by the way I didn’t find this page because I thought Firefox sucks and typed that into Google. NO! I was a huge fan of your ExtractNow program, went to your website and found this link at the top of the page.

And no, I won’t hide the fact that I’m using Firefox. I know I might be biased towards Firefox but I wanna remind you one last time that the biggest / main reason that Firefox is soo good is because of it’s addons, the other good stuff of Firefox pales in comparison to its ability to use thousands and thousands of free addons.
Addons such as these…

Adblock Plus (Blocks most form of advertisments, even ones embedded inside a webpage, text, graphic, flash…etc)
FireShot (Great for taking screenshots of websites, which combined with Adblock Plus means screenshots with no ads)
FlashGot (Download YouTube videos with 1 click, batch download of URLs…etc)
Google Preview
GreaseMonkey (In addition to adding addons to firefox, now you can add scripts too, which means you can make Firefox even more powerful now than before)
IE Tab (Some websites don’t conform to the web standards that modern web browsers follow and are specifically designed for IE, now with a click in Firefox you can render the page with IE right inside Firefox’s window / GUI)
WebMail Notifier (Checks multiple Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail accounts for you automatically…etc)

I could go on and on and on but I hope you get the point Nathan. You really helped me a lot with ExtractNow so I was hoping I could do something for you in return, like opening your eyes to reality.

Okay, bye bye.

With Firefox you never know if the build you are going to get is going to leak memory or not. How hard is it for them to test each build by leaving an instance open and checking memory usage over the course of a couple of hours?

Oh and I was referring to 3.0.8. So if you think that Firefox has solved their memory leak issues, they haven’t. Memory leaks always seem to find their way into Firefox builds.

You keep saying Firefox is evil and stuff but how and why?

Firefox-code is at this time (2009) to 1% official written by google-developers. Check the source-files of the release 3.0, for the copyrights. The inoffical stuff we can only imagine.

Firefox is copyright by Mozilla Incl. You can read this on each page.
Hey, don’t mix this with the foundation. The company Mozilla is working in the hardest market in our time. It is a commercial company which is working to make money. Nothing else. It is not a social club (community) or sozial institution, how it seems to be (on their pages). By the way, also Billy-boy has his own foundation(s).

The users of Firefox uses the feature “safe-browsing”! They make firefox to a open book for google. So you can really say the browser is open. Each start of the browser gives google the users IP and the sign, who is online at which time. Check it with “Wireshark”. Even if you didn’t open a page, works this with a little delay. And each click on the close-button gives google the sign, who is offline. Each page the user is visiting, is checked by google first. Called save-browsing. Don’t laught about this, Google knows each page you visit, with your IP and time. Yes, the fan says: if you worried about this, then you can deactivate this feature or better: Also if this is like you saying, technical is firefox …. bla, bla, … This is called repression, an active prozess to hide reality .

when you move your mouse over the Homepage-button-symbol of firefox, it is showing a mozilla adress. (unchangeable for a common user like me.) But when you click on it, what a miracle, you are beeing redirected simple to google.com. Questions? Not only firefox, the user is also captured by google.

Show me a browser who is more open to a commercial giant, as firefox is at this time. Best you use the google-browser chrome. This would be more fair-minded to yourself.

Google pay’s Mozilla millions of dollars. The chief of mozilla is getting half a million for his job a year. Questions? A sozial job he is doing? And google is a sozial …. etc..yes.. Do you believe it? For free only for believers. The commercial side of mozilla is not a worst thing, but don’t ignore this. Firefox is nothing else as a commercial browser, which shows the lack of personal consciousness of there users.

I found no firefox-user who is really interesting to check this for his self. That’s the way of true lies. It needs believers which basically like “glamour-stories” (The “for free” also “sozial community” and “secure because open” stuff)!

And if you like to write or read the facts on wikipedia, you will meet the people of google and mozilla which will erease the facts out of the artikel. Do it, don’t believe me. Do it for yourself. You will see how it ends. There is to much money to earn, with unsecure browsers and
open-minded (means “without a mind”) users .

And there is only one reason on earth these things can happen so obviously. Because of the giant mass will not look to facts, because they don’t like them. You use firefox ?… you did not need a webcam … make a wish and smile … blink… ! All for free …. and most important point of all … spreed the word ! Mozilla and Google like this, believe me: they will love you!

Peace for you all, sleep well !

@nathan:
memory leaks in firefox? possible.
memory leaks in IE? sure.
backdoors in IE? uh-yeah.
exploits in IE? yup, still there.

as andrew already said, you failed giving only one poopy reason why IE should be better than FF, opera or any other browser. i don’t say that i hate IE, as a web designer i have “all common” web browsers installed on my machine. i just don’t feel confident with IE.

@rick:
i haven’t checked what you wrote above, you may be right, but what about IE? IE sends lots of info to microsoft and i think they are able to collect even more data about the users due to the fact that IE is embedded into the windows os.

alas, privacy is a wild goose chase these days.

The stupidest thing I heard in my life.

Really, Explorer sucks… (And swallows).

I am Internet Explorer fan , firefox sucks i made a lot of tests in it and i proved that firefox is very weak to virused sites IT WONT PROTECT YOU AT ALL.Internet Explorer is more more more more better than firebitch.Even if firefox have faster searches i dont give a fuck…..ie8 is the best the most secure and performant search engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB9fhjnJcB0

I was laughing my ass of when I saw the “Get The Internet Explorer 8″ video. I have never seen something more ridiculous than this video before. I would say the girl pukes because she has to use IE on the notebook — who wouldn’t puke in that situation? And, wow, IE now clears your private data on exit! Nice feature, already seen in other browsers around 1996 …. reminds me of “new feature: tabbed browsing” in IE7 …. ridiculous.

I like Firefox, but Opera rules!

Okay, I promised myself I wouldn’t wade into yet another war between browser users. Obviously, I’ve failed.

Anyway, if there is one thing that I positively do not agree with, it’s that some websites essentially force you to use Firefox, regardless of whether you want to do so or not. It doesn’t help that Firefox users also try to shove it down your throat (and with a sanctimonious attitude, to boot). In my many years of using IE I have only experienced a serious problem once (which was through no fault of the browser, AKA “pilot error” to borrow from the aviation community). Although I concede that I have never used Firefox (again, mostly because of the smug, condescending attitude) my attitude is “If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it”. Another thing I notice is that quite often Firefox users are overzealous, unwilling to take any criticism of their browser while denouncing IE as some sort of malevolent entity. They often resort to insulting users of IE as well. The funny thing is that to me, those who use IE often come off as looking more mature, as they don’t often resort to the low blows that Firefox users do (Of course, I realise the irony of saying this, as I am essentially doing the same thing). I believe that for the average internet user, IE will do just fine. Also, just as a parting shot, it seems that despite the “spell checker” Firefox users tend to be horrible spellers.

IE sucks, i work programing, and some code of .NET is incompatible with IE. firefox works 100%

Microsoft sucks, IE sucks and we have to boycott MIcro$oft.
Windows is the most Terrible OS on the world and if you yousing Winsuck you doesn’t have to use this FUCKING Microsucks-Applications, get real browsers like Mozilla, Opera or all so. Microsoft can’t make standards, else it warfe no Standards.

Boycott Windows and get a real os like Linux, BSD or another one.
Microsoft Boycott go go go….

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=firefox+crash+OR+crashes+OR+crashed+OR+hangs

forget firefox and Internet EXPLODER get safari

I LOVE INTERNET EXPLORER

Uuuhhh, download Internet Explorer 8
@Nathan : How should i get Internet Explorer 8 running ON LINUX, haaaa?
Forgot Internet explorer;
Get Safari, Opera, Dillo, Seamonkey or OffByOne.

http://lobobrowser.org/java-browser.jsp
The Java Browser (running under LINUX, BeOS, FreeBSD, MacOS)
Forgot Propritary Standards get Free Standards

Lobo is a very great browser:
Its 100% independent from windows and Microsofts Propritary Standards.

Kick Windows and all other Microsoft Products into the
Dustbin!!!

Get Google Chrome instead of IE ! ! ! !
Get Google Chrome OS instead of Windows ! ! ! !

Gotot Urban dictionary.com and serach Internet Explorer and see what you find. Also goto firefoxdownload.com and read that.

So many ways that Firefox is better then IE:
~ Open Source
~ First browser to have tabs
~ First browser to have addons
~ First browser to be able to right-click on embeded videos and download them (this is a new feature with Firefox 3.5, only for .ogg videos only for now.
~ Most Secure Browser
~ Most Customizable Browser
~ Probably the most fastest browser
~ It does everything I want it to do
~ Displays pages no problem
~ Hardly any errors or crashes
~ Hundreds of awesome addons
~ Constantly being improved for the better
~ Bugs are fixed within days
~ Owned by Mozilla which is open source and the best software company ever! They are a community.
~ Since Mozilla Firefox is open source (like all other Mozilla’s products), it is free, Mozilla never spent spent a penny on their browser nor have anyone.

Internet Explorer:
~ Stolen ideas from other browsers (mostly Mozilla Firefox)
~ IE 7.0 tabbed browsing: Firefox had this since the very first release.
~ IE 8.0 Addons: Firefox had this since, probably since the first release.
~ Crashes a lot and get constant errors
~ Doesn’t always display pages correctly
~ Very slow and insecure
~ Takes forever before updates or a new version is out (because it’s not open source)
~ When installing IE, it takes forever (I don’t think any other browser takes that long to install). and requires restart. Firefox installes within a minute and dosen’t require restart.
~ Most times when I open IE, pages never load and I usually have to close it and reopen it a few times.
~ IE is ugly, just look at it.
~ IE annoys me all the time and got the constant (error on page) at the buttom.
~ IE is not up to date, even the latest version is out of date and still requires a lot of work for todays standards.
~ Bugs take months to be fixed becuase it’s not open source, it only depends on the Mocrosoft team to fix them instead of everyone else.
~ Microsoft will never have a community, only customers.
~ Microsoft spends millions of dallors on there browser each time a new release comes, it isn’t even worth close to that, my opinion, it isn’t even worth $50.

wow… you support a browser that has been around, and started as pirated and illegally distributed software that to this day is STILL INCAPABLE of fully supporting CSS, wow…

@Nathan:
I have tried to install IE on Linux, try it yourself, good luck

OK, OK… Firefox on windows is even worse, but because of its fuckin “Microsoft .NET 3.5 Assist” for M$ ClickOnce support. Forgot Firefox and IE!
Get Opera or Seamonkey!!!

AND: Anything that run only on windows is not worthy to exist. Microsoft Harms the hardware industry to give BigMedia the control.

EVERY WINDOWS SOFTWARE ISN’T WORTHY TO EXIST ! ! !

I HATE WINDOWS ! ! !
I HATE IT SO… AND ANY WHAT ONLY RUNS ON WINDOWS ISNT WORTHY TO EXIST ! ! ! !

Alternative browser (based on Google Chrome)
http://www.srware.net/software_srware_iron_download.php

PS:Google makes the standards, not Microsoft.

I commend you, Nathan, for you have trolled the epic SHIT out of Mr. Hammy.

For the record, I use firefox, and really dislike anything less than IE8. Why is IE8 so great? It follow standards that FF has been doing since day one. But I will say, IE6 was amazing in the fact that it could pull together the most horrible coding into a semblance of order.

Plus, remember how in IE5 you could skin your brower? Awww yeah.

@AnthonyAziz: Thank you, I am glad my life’s work hasn’t gone unnoticed.

Nathan, I’m interested in hearing if you still feel this way about Firefox and IE? Things have changed dramatically since you posted this almost four years ago? Have you tried other browsers recently such as Firefox 3.6 or Chrome?

@Richard: Thanks for asking. I do not feel the same. I use Firefox. It has improved a lot and the plug-in support is what initially converted me. User interface response time is critical to me and I feel that Internet Explorer has lost the snappiness that it once had. As for Chrome, it simply isn’t mature enough. I will re-evaluate when IE 9 is delivered, however I don’t have high hopes because of previous mismanagement of the Internet Explorer product. This post was aimed at fanboys. However, I subscribe to the idea that “whatever gets the job done the best” is what I’ll use.

internet explore – Use it if you want a virus ( no matter what you will get one using IE)

Mozilla Firefox – Use it if you do not want a virus and to further protect your PC get the Add-ons you need.

From a web developer standpoint, I can honestly say that Internet Explorer is the worse piece of crap that has ever been created! It doesn’t render CSS correctly, it doesn’t update, ever, which means we have to wait until a whole new version for it to FINALLY be able to render CSS3 (incorrectly, of course ._.). Microsoft in itself is not a very good company. The only reason Apple cannot get ahead in that department is because of cost.

You are a complete and total idiot!

LOL @ Haha

Nathan, clearly you are just trying to spread the truth in this disease and deceit-ridden world. I commend you for your bravery in defending us all against the threat of this demon called ‘Firefox’.

You sir.. are a true patriot.

I have nothing against you Nathan, your website is cool and all. But I don’t get your whole “IE is my god” cult. Do you like work for Microsoft or something? Or have you been blinded to have your own opinions by IE’s delusion that Mozilla Firefox is illegal.
Here is some information for you.

First, Firefox is approximately 50% faster than IE as of May 8.

Second, Firefox allows you to run homemade add-ons that they allow for download on their website. (IE only allows toolbars and if you disagree, try to get “Tamper Data” on IE.)

Lastly, you can completely configure every future of the browser, to make it blazing fast or a add-on powerhouse. (IE comes the way it does and stays that way.)

P.S. I’m posting this from Firefox.

Internet explorer is better than Firefox. why? it is more secure contrary to what kill firefox website says. it looks better. it remembers my websites, i have to do less to go to websites that i love.

From a webdesigners point of view, firefox is better, has support for css 3 and html 5 which internet explorer does not. However it does have the best support for css2.1

I am a user and a webdesigner, those are my two standpoints. Internet explorer 9 has already got support for css3 and html 5 and its not finalised (test it yourself).

im not on anyones side, i use all four browsers. im using safari right now. in a hour i might pick up chrome and go to facebook. i may check my bank balance with Internet explorer, but the last thing ill ever do is check my banlance with firefox. Countries are telling their citizens not to use firefox…what does that say?

someone earlier said internet explorer doesnt have full support for css? it was at the time the only browser to have Full support for CSS2.1. where was firefox?

IE invented Active X which allows hackers to get in.
Plus M$’s messed up version of JavaScript.
Going tho call me a n00b now?
N00bs are lazy assholes who cant be stuffed to use a better browser.

BTW i would suggest deleating this blog post so anti stop scratching your huge ego.

I had a nightmare last night. I was walking through a university lan and they had just switched to Firefox. I saw peoples’ souls being dragged into the monitors. Then the voice of an angel bellowed to me in a glorious deep baritone voice, and he said unto me:

“Hot Diggidy Dawg, you sexy beast, the antichrist is upon us, and his name is Mozilla, and his second name is Firefox!”

“Beware young Diggidy, for this faulty piece of software is the harbinger of a dark age of terror and despair. And beware too, the false prophet in its other guises, Opera and Google Chrome.”

“The good book that was writ by the Loooooord himself did sayeth unto thee that the deceiver would come in the guise of an angel, leading the good folks astray from the truth.”

“The truth is Internet Explorer, and Firefox is the Dark Lord of Deceit, and Opera is the Whore Queen of Promiscuity, and Google Chrome is the Master of Rectal Punishment!”.

The dream was terrifying. I urge you all to repent and turn back to the path of the righteous. Please!!!

How is IE safer than Firefox if hackers have been targeting IE and Windows for years. Since IE is already installed on Windows, more people use it, so that puts up a target on IE’s head for hackers. You said, “Countries”. But I believe you mean only Germany. They gave out warning of a security problem for BOTH IE AND MOZILLA FIREFOX. In fact, FIREFOX FIXED THEIRS YET WINDOWS DIDN’T FIX IE!!!! From my Professional point of view, I would never use IE with my personal information and credit cards as they have screwed up their security many times with Active X and careless options. If it really comes down to the look, just use the myFireFox add-on that makes Firefox look identical to IE with all of the benefits and security of Firefox.

guys… seriously…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

@Hot Diggidy Dawg: Your visions are true and faithful. Your rewards in the afterlife will be great. Like a prodigal son, I was lead astray by that mischievous fox, but now I have found my way back home.